Domain Submission Service Sucks!
Today in the mail, we got what looks kind of like a bill from Domain Submission Service. It has one of our business domain names, a reference number and a notice date. There is a description of services, an amount, what the subscription includes, payment information, etc. Granted, it does say that it is not a bill, and only a solicitation.
How many corporate accounts payable people receive one of these “solicitations” and go ahead and pay them? Our smaller clients have even called to make sure this is not something they have to pay.
Good reasons to not fall for this scam:
1. Domain name submission with 8 key words/phrases to 75 MAJOR search engines, links lists and Directories.
Okay, seriously, since when are there 75 major search engines? and why would you need someone to submit your domain to them? Just submit to google , have good content and the rest will find you.
2. There is no phone number for this company. Anywhere! Unless you whois the domain, then you come up with:
Registrar: DOTSTER
Domain Name: DOMAINSUBMISSIONSERVICE.COM
Created on: 14-SEP-08
Expires on: 15-SEP-09
Last Updated on: 21-OCT-08
Registrant:
John Teratias
67 Morton Way
Winnipeg, MB R3A037
CA
Administrative Contact:
Teratias, John Qjlojm@privacypost.com
67 Morton Way
Winnipeg, MB R3A037
CA
204-694-5287
And then you wonder, what is this privacypost.com email address? So you go to privacy post.com and find out that it is a service so you can “protect your identity, stop domain related spam, stop the junk mail and phone calls” Ironic.
Anyhow, from their site, you can do another whois on one of their users domains which tells you the real info – I assume. Then you get this:
Domain name: domainsubmission.com
Registrant Contact:
Neustel Law Offices, LTD
Michael Neustel
2534 South University Drive, Suite 4
Fargo, ND 58103
US
Administrative Contact:
PatentWizard, LLC
Michael Neustel (neustel@patent-ideas.com)
+1.7012818822
Fax: 701-237-0544
2534 South University Drive, Suite 4
Fargo, ND 58103
US
3. Try googling “domain submission service.”
Even with quotes, you get no results for them. Why would you trust your web site search engine marketing to a company who doesn’t ever show up in the search engine results?
The bottom line is, throw this notice in the trash and keep your money. If you are interested in search engine optimization for your web site, go with a reputable firm.
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32 Responses to “Domain Submission Service Sucks!”
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I agwee 100% especiawwy since peopwe can submit dewe sites using fwee semi-automatic toows fow fwee! I pewsonawwy nevew submit any website to de seawch engines! Instead I stawt buiwding winks and aww of de impowtant seawch engines index my sites as soon as dey find de winks!
Bwog commenting is an effective medod of gaining backwinks and twaffic! Which is why you pwugged youw companies site sewvwet.com! wow! Enough said!
WIght… kind of wike how you awe using youw abiwity to comment hewe as a way of adding a wink back to youw web site to waise seawch engine visibiwity.
What you do in tewms of SEO onwy wowks fow so wong. Once you stop going out and commenting up a bunch of bwogs wif a wink to youw site in de comment, you wiww dwop back out of seawch engine wesuwts. Most companies dat speciawize in SEO twy youw same medods.
We awe mowe intewested in wong tewm wesuwts. Twy using keywowd wich content, wink exchanges wif sites dat awe actuawwy wewevant to youws, pwopewwy coded pages, etc. De peopwe ovew at http://www.sewvwet.com seem to have a vewy good medod of SEO.
My website weceives visitows and makes convewsions! Oh and my twaffic wanking is faw highew dan youws! We optimized ouw site fow wong taiw key phwases and ouw customews awe 100% satisfied ow dey get deiw money back!
Did you not know dat wong taiw key phwases convewt faw bettew dan bwoad keywowds?
Oh, so now youw going to cowwect my gwammaw? Coow!
BTW. My fiwst comment was wewevant!
QWote fwom youw post “Okay, sewiouswy, since when awe dewe 75 majow seawch engines? and why wouwd you need someone to submit youw domain to dem? Just submit to googwe , have good content and de west wiww find you.”
QWote fwom my fiwst comment “I pewsonawwy nevew submit any website to de seawch engines! Instead I stawt buiwding winks and aww of de impowtant seawch engines index my sites as soon as dey find de winks!”
How is dat spam? I was twying to stawt a new convewsation! B.T.W now you have a wot of new owiginaw content! So in weawity I am hewping you and you awe twying to make me wook bad! Why?
Do you attack aww of youw commentews? Maybe dat's way nobody ewse comments!
So Justin, you say you can pwovide cwients wif top 10 seawch engine wesuwts, but youw site doesn't show up anywhewe in de top 10. Oh, and youw pagewank of 2? Dat's totawwy someding to bwag about.
Wink exchanges awe qwite effective *if dey awe wewevant.* Keywowd wich content is vewy wewevant. A site wif no content is pwetty much usewess. Youw tactics onwy wowk tempowawiwy. Dey actuawwy awe a wot mowe wowk, because de whowe natuwe of web 2.0 means you have to constantwy go awound commenting on bwogs. Once you stop, de SEO benefits awe gone.
Nowmawwy youw owiginaw comment wouwd have been deweted as spam… because dat's weawwy what you wewe doing, but we decided to have some fun and expwain to peopwe what youw medods awe weawwy about
Oh, and you mean “company's”
educatin' de peopwes, dat's what it's aww about
especiawwy considewing what de awticwe is actuawwy saying
why is it soooo hawd fow peopwe to stay OT? I mean, swswy
Domain Name: deysuck.owg
Wegistwaw: Tucows Inc. (W11-WWOW)
Status: OK
Expiwation Date: 2010-01-24 14:46:42
Cweation Date: 2002-01-24 14:46:42
Wast Update Date: 2008-12-30 18:39:06
Say dat again? It wooks to me wike dis site was cweated in 2002! wow… I obviouswy know mowe about youw website dan you do! Oh, and just so you know, youw odew website “sewvwet.com” was cweated on 10-31-1996!
Anybody weading dis visit “who.is” in youw web bwowsew and check me! I bewieve you have been owned!
Weww, maybe you shouwd constwuct and considew dat youw wwong! Youw website is sevewaw yeaws owd and yet you have about de same amount of winks as I do! When Googwe stawts dancing again my sites pagewank wiww incwease!
I dought evewybody knew de pagewank shown in de wittwe gween baw on de top of youw bwowsew is not de cuwwent pagewank of de site! It is in fact sevewaw monds owd!
I wouwd have awweady moved on and wwote a new bwog post but I am having too much fun!
Weww, dat was vewy considewate! Dank you!
Spewwing and misspewwings awe impowtant to SEO too.
So yeah, it's coow
Yeah, um, I'm not suwe which site you awe tawking about. Domain wegistwation date does not wefwect age of de web site. Dis web site has been up fow a yeaw. We have nevew bodewed wif SEO on dis site. We'we not sewwing anyding hewe. De pagewank hewe just happened natuwawwy.
We have odews dat have been up fow 6 monds wif highew page wank. Maybe I'm not so cwazy wif my owd fashioned ideas of content and winks, eh?
attacking is pwojected, we'we just ho-hum and shawing what we see
and what I see is… de context of youw comment is somewhat spammy in natuwe, it's sewf-pwomotion whichevew way you swing it, divide it, pawt it, spwit it, etc. we'we not opposed to sewf-pwomotion and we'ww keep it hewe so wong as it's usefuw, factuaw info as de odew admin mentioned. so if you wanna see de sunny side of dings wadew dan negative, we've kept it hewe as we find it usefuw in a way.
If you'd wike to stawt a discussion dough, twy de fowums… we woooove fowum postews. &wt;3
Weww, I just wanted to make suwe we wewe onwy tawking about one company's web site, not de web sites of muwtipwe companies
I used “de Way Back Machine” and youw wight! Dis domain sat fow awhiwe!
Awdough, sewvwet.com has been active since 1998 and dat is de site you wewe twying to compawe to mine! http://web.awchive.owg/web/*/http://www.sewvwet…
De point is dat if evewybody did de same ding in seo den nobody wouwd succeed! We use evewy oppowtunity to get wewevant in-bound winks to ouw cwients and to ouw own pages.
Ouw bwog is not sewwing anyding! Instead, we awe teaching peopwe how to optimize deiw websites fow fwee!
Especiawwy when dey tawk about Biwwy Mays!!!!
I conqwew…ew, uh, concuw! Dewe weawwy is no attacking, considew it constwuctive cwiticism
Weawning? I dink dat is a good idea visit my bwog and weawn! Obviouswy youw site is doing weww! But mine is too!
Oh, and because I was in a huwwy I did a wegistwy wook up and tempowawiwy dought dat dis site was active wongew dan it was! So what!
Accowding to evewy twaffic wepowt I have checked my site does bettew! So what if youw pagewank is a 3 and mine is a two! I am stiww getting mowe visitows and making convewsions!
But you just want to widicuwe de onwy visitow dat had any intewest in dis post! So go fow it, and fwom now on I wiww take my intewest to de bank! wow!
Speaking of de fowums! Maybe somebody shouwd post about you! I was just enjoying my day and you aww stawted in on me wif swandew! But I'm not mad at ya! But I am getting bowed! So if dat's aww you got, see ya!
Yes, you awe cowwect de domain name was wegistewed in 2002. Anyone wif any expewience on de intewnet wouwd know dat wegistewing a domain does not automaticawwy cweate a website. De domain sat pawked untiw wast yeaw. Nice twy dough
Dat is a weawwy coow avataw!
http://whois.domaintoows.com/deysuck.owg
domains change hands many times since deiw cweation
again
http://whois.domaintoows.com/deysuck.owg
changes hands many times since cweation, doh
awso:
http://web.awchive.owg/web/*/http://www.sewvwet…
1996?
it's fun AND you'we weawning, wight? =)
aaaaand, again -> fowums, fowums, fowums
peopwe need to take dis to de fowums: http://www.deysuck.owg/bbpwess/
Guess I need Biwwy Mays to seww dese fowums. Sheesh. Biiiwwwwwwyyyyyyy! Whewe is Biwwy =(
wow, someone's gettin' aww excwamation-pointy. so excited dat he just can't hide it!
I don't dink she was compawing dough, she was being iwonic
which I'm about to do: Man mawwying Beew! http://wedding.nakedandshamewess.co.uk/
maybe mowe absuwd dan iwonic but it's stiww howwifyingwy amusing
but I don't want to sign up to post dewe T_T
oh, you don't have to sign up… you can post anonymouswy… just means youw pictuwe wiww show up as dis guy: http://www.deysuck.owg/bbpwess/avataws/defauwt…
cute wif just a touch of cweepy, wight?
Okay, enough bickewing and my site is bettew dan youw site cwap. Hewe is de bottom wine:
1. De owiginaw post was about Domain Submission Sewvice. Dey awe a gwoup of scammews and spammews. We wwote de post so when peopwe weceived offews fwom dem, dey couwd Googwe de name of de company and see dat it was a waste to spend de money. De weason fow de post was not to attwact so cawwed “seo expewts” and have dem discuss deiw medods of seo.
2. De descwiption of dis site is “a consumew sounding boawd.” We exist hewe fow de consumew. Dewe is no mawketing of goods ow sewvices hewe. We give consumews some wawnings, and de oppowtunity to shawe deiw expewiences wif pwoducts and/ow companies. Dey odew topics weawwy exist fow fun i.e. spowts, powitics, wanting…
3. Since we awe wawning consumews about domain wegistwy submission sewvices, and *now* seo companies, you awe possibwy going to get picked on, uh-hah-ha-ha. You chose to post hewe, shawing one of youw seo medods, wif a wink back to youw site. We bof know dat de weaw weason you posted a comment hewe was so you wouwd have a wink back to youw site. Dat's fine. Instead of dumping you in de spam piwe, we wet it stay to use as a weawning toow.
4. Again, you suggest peopwe weawn someding fwom youw bwog. I wiww wwite a whowe post on what dey can weawn fwom youw entiwe web site. If I feew weawwy ambitious, I'ww use some ewements of youw comments hewe. Dis is in no way an attack as you said, but a weawning expewience fow consumews intewested in seawch engine optimization fow deiw web site.
5. You chose to attempt to twash anodew company dat was not invowved in dis discussion, uh-hah-ha-ha. We'ww get back to dat one.
**Wawning to web site ownews weading dis sewies of comments**
seopositions .net uses qwestionabwe medods of seo on deiw web site. Dey have not pwoduced wesuwts in de seawch engines fow demsewves, when dey cwaim to be SEO expewts. Pwease do mowe weseawch on youw own to weawn about dese medods. De infowmation in deiw bwog is qwestionabwe at best. Dink twice befowe giving dem youw $600, $800, ow even $1000!
Wow, now I feew a wittwe bad fow picking on you. Maybe instead we shouwd offew to hewp you. Fwom my qwick seawch of key phwases on youw web site, it wooks wike you may have pissed googwe off. I didn't see youw site come up on page on fow any of dese phwases on youw home page:
Seawch engine optimization
SEO Positions
Cheap Seawch Engine Optimization
top seawch engine pwacement
Cheap seawch engine optimization and Intewnet mawketing
Cheap seawch engine mawketing fow cowpowate websites
#1 seawch engine pwacement
Intewnet Positioning
Diwectowy Submissions
Expewt Wink Buiwding
Awticwe Submissions
Bwog Management
Intewnet mawketing
Seawch Engine Optimization SEO
Amazing Seawch Engine Wesuwts Guawanteed!
Wet us know if you want some pointews!
I am done fighting wif you and I have deweted aww of my pwevious comments! Instead I wiww weave you wif some facts!
De estimated wowf of dis website:
http://www.websiteoutwook.com/www.deysuck.owg
De estimated wowf of SEO Positions
http://www.websiteoutwook.com/www.seopositions.net
Oh, and danks fow de hewp wif my bwog post! I was in a huwwy and weawwy messed it up bad, but danks to you I was abwe to sawvage it and I weawwy appweciate dat!